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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 3:16:25 PM   
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Thats what I thought cro but stephens says he does it differently.  Just wondered

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 3:18:52 PM   
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Ok Ok, this is the first ever attempt at a wheelie on the f4i, i swear. Bone stock, nothing but a Jardine slip one exhaust. So Yes, CLUTCH that biatch up and ride it like its meant to be ridden.......Oh yeah and the 2nd video is the first ride on the 636, but it was filmed from the f4i...=-)

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=37746269

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=37746628



You''''re both idiots.



LoL, BOTH....i didnt see anyone else on the bike, LoL.....This is where BOTH comes in play at...=-)

Keep in mind, these are the first ever wheelies. Never ridden wheelies before...=-)

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=38376280



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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 3:51:43 PM   
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F4iMane, whatever you feel most comfortable doing is what you should do. If you want to powerband it, then do it. These are the ways we do it. Sometimes I powerband it because my bike has more torque with the -1 sprocket, just a really hard rip on the throttle and the front end will come up. But most of the time I use the clutch.

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 3:58:37 PM   
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why do the dudes on the youtube video suggest power wheelies?  Alot of people say with the clutch wheelie the front end comes up more viloent.  I am new to wheelies and just want to take precautions and start out on the easiest way ya know?

All this feedback is mad appreciated!

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 4:05:22 PM   
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The power wheelie is unpredictable. RPM + speed + throttle....Those have to be the about the same every time for the bike to act the same way it did before. With clutch up''s you can change things around and still get the same outcome and sometimes better.....If u pull the clutch, rev the bike to 15K and dump the clutch (will it be violent?). Hell yeah it''ll be violent all day long like that....Most of the time you pull clutch, throttle, and ease out of the clutch...This way the bike doesnt just JUMP up and hit you in the head. It slowly comes up depending on how much throttle and if the clucth is dumped or eased out...Once you start getting it to come up, you then start giving it more throttle or u start dumping the clutch more. In this case, it comes up a little faster, but at this time your use to it coming up.....Power wheelies, you CANT predict a damn thing. Except that the wheel is coming up, but u dont know how fast or how far. With the clutch, i can tell you exactly how fast its coming up and right where the BP is.........Learn the clutch up''s, cover the REAR brake.....And take it from there.......=-)

PS: Get a pit bike and learn on that.....=-)

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 4:25:32 PM   
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i used to be a member of a pro stunt team.. here is my input on this..

if you are a newbie and are learning wheelies.. first off change your clutch out to a barnett. costs about $100 that will save you alot of trouble in the future.. secondly. if you can get ahold of a 50 pitbike then learn the wheelies on it first. you learn balance point and brake control and if you fall you have a shorter distance till you hit the ground.. plus 20mph on a 100lb bike hurts less than 60mph on a 400 lb bike especially if it lands on you lol

but if you cant then try to stay away from power wheelies. always cover the rear brake on anything you do. but in the case of power wheelies it doesnt always help.  if you get a power wheelie to high and you freak out, ( which most newbies will do) the reaction you have when falling off is to pull on the handle bars to catch yourself which in turn rolls on more throttle.. resulting in a perfect backflip  10.. 9.5 .. 10   LMAO    

thr clutch up method is the easiest and safest way.. but it takes alot of practice as does everything. but my sugesstion to anyone trying would be to find a large empty parking lot to try in.. not the road, and DONT DO IT ALONE.  you need someone to pick up the bike and call the ambulance.. HAHA   wear all the right gear and dont be a retard as well ..

and when you get it to the balance point for the first time you will know it.. it will scare the shit out of you and it will feel like the bike drops and goes limp so to speak.. best way is to have someone video you so you can see your own mistakes and progress..

Good Luck

and if you happen to be one of the ""highway stunters""   not telling anyone what to do or not to do.. but use your head and dont be one of the retards doing a 90mph power wheelie through traffic or holding people up.. alot of cagers ( cars )   enjoy watching bikers stunt.. as long as your over in the slow lane not holding anyone up or causing a problem.. trust me there has been some major issues with some horrible endings resulting from exactly that


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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 5:00:35 PM   
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why dont you just worry about improving your overall riding skills....
all that effort should be used to make yourself a better and safer rider, not some yahoo that wheelies in traffic and then slams on the brakes when he comes up to a red light, im sure you have seen em
or just try to have fun with 2 wheels on the ground i dont think it will be that hard

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 8:07:43 PM   
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why dont you just worry about improving your overall riding skills....
all that effort should be used to make yourself a better and safer rider, not some yahoo that wheelies in traffic and then slams on the brakes when he comes up to a red light, im sure you have seen em
or just try to have fun with 2 wheels on the ground i dont think it will be that hard



Dude you sound grumpy?  Go try and rain on someone elses thread. 

Only positive feedback is aprreciated.

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 9:19:11 PM   
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hey man im just saying what i feel about the topic, and the truth is alot of people would rather try and show off than become a solid rider...
not everyone is this way but where im from its not the case, everyone is a show off and it gives good riders a bad rep
boohoo dude get an umbrella

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 9:39:38 PM   
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They suggest to start with power wheelies ONLY to get the feeling of the wheel off the ground.  Good opinion in my mind as well.

about becoming a better rider:
I am under the impression that wheelies will make you a better rider.  From them my throttle control has become exponentionally greater.  I am better with my balance which helps in turns.  Overall I am just more comfortable on the bike for daily riding...  my .02


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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/7/2008 9:49:17 PM   
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They suggest to start with power wheelies ONLY to get the feeling of the wheel off the ground.  Good opinion in my mind as well.

about becoming a better rider:
I am under the impression that wheelies will make you a better rider.  From them my throttle control has become exponentionally greater.  I am better with my balance which helps in turns.  Overall I am just more comfortable on the bike for daily riding...  my .02



Ya being comfortable with your front end coming up and and knowing your limits with it is apart of being as fast as you can get on the track also.  Watch any AMA race and you will see dudes coming out of corners laying on the throttel and the front end coming up a little.

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/8/2008 10:05:05 AM   
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As for me, i''''m not very good at the whole clutch wheelie thing. It seems so damaging. However, i can power wheelie like hell and it sure is fun. The power wheelie seems very controlable and predictable in my case. I just get up to about 6K in 1st gear, let off for a second and then WOT until it comes up at which point i manage the throttle to keep it where i want it. Until i run out of rpm''s of course

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/9/2008 9:03:56 AM   
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nice

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/9/2008 10:04:24 AM   
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radvoem, chill out... just because someone wants to get the front up doesnt mean he or she doesnt want to improve all-around as a rider.  I spend most of my time in twisties trying to improve as a rider, but I wont say Ive never pulled the front off the ground.  H**l, if youre riding hard enough in an area with hills, the fronts going to come up eventually; you might as well be used to the front going light so when it does you dont panic.

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The wheelie thing is kinda obnoxious at times. A kid yelled that to me at a stop sign the other day, and I yelled back "DO A BACKFLIP!"

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-I miss my cbr

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RE: Wheelies on F4i - 9/9/2008 10:09:04 AM   
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I have found out that its fun to ride wheelies. I get this huge adrenaline rush once that wheel comes off the ground. I like to do what others can''t.  If you think thats fun, try doing a wheelie with a passenger on back. Now thats one heck of a ride. I say, some shoot it, some drink it, all they have to do is hold on!!!

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