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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 2/27/2006 9:29:23 PM

cbr6

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Squire, thanks again for the map. I felt a LITTLE difference than the map given with unit, however not as much as I did with the sprocket swap (-1/+2). The sprocket modification is soemthing everyone that owns this bike should experience. Definitely, the best bang for your buck

. I dont care what anyones says about top speed being in the 130's, its all about how fast you get there! Using the gears more also makes it more exciting to ride...my opinion only.

Back to the map, how about yourself, did you notice a difference with the dyno'd map compared to the standard PC map?

I think a change in the fuel map should incorporate ignition advance to go along with it. I've been playing with Honda's for awhile and they love timming....I still think its possible to get a few more degrees out of the bike and still run 91/92. Any thoughts?

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 2/28/2006 8:10:29 AM

SquireSCA

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I noticed a difference. The map from Dynojey was too rich in the mid-range.

I like this map over the custom map I had before, simply because of the type of dyno. A regular Dynojet dynom calculates HP based on how fast you can accelerate a 600lb drum. The machine assumes that to go from X speed to Y speed in Z time, you must have whatever HP. And because it is based on time, the reflexes of the operator really effect the results. And if that dyno has a gas anylizer, the best unit in the world still takes at least 4 or 5 seconds to get a good reading, and you are never at a given rpm(except idle) for more than a split second. So they look at a curve with is a calculation effected by operator error, and then adjust mixture to get a better curve. It will get you in the ballpark, but not as accurate as the other method.

That is the Factory Pro braking dyno. Operator error is less of a factor because the HP calculation is not based on time. You want to test the HP at 6000rpm? Pin the throttle and when the bike hits 6000rpm, the brake engages and holds the engine there and measures exactly how much force the engine is exerting, and it knows how much HP is being created because the machine can precisely sense how much force it is having to brake to keep the rpm's from climbing over 6000. And while it sits there for several seconds, you get a very nice gas sample for that exact rpm range.

The guy who did mine, spent 3 hours doing this, at every 500rpm increment, going back and adjusting and retesting every 500rpm increment in this fashion.

When I drove out, I had better throttle response and an extra 3HP on top and more midrange punch. Not night and day like a sprocket change, but you could feel it.

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 2/28/2006 10:16:45 AM

eteller

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I figured out the map will not work for me as i have a PC II not the PC III USB, but i am gonna download the PC III software open it and see if maybe the # will copy over manually.

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/14/2006 8:31:58 PM

cbr6

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Squire, I read an earlier posting of yours that you're bike was running rich because of tunning done in the winter. Did you lean out? Just curious of the results. I still haven't got my PCIII, need some more convincing. Is it worth? I'm riding the line of buying, or not buying, money not being the issue....

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/14/2006 10:13:04 PM

SquireSCA

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Yeah, I now have a warm weather map and a cold weather map, and the thing runs great. I would go get it, it is money well spent if you want to change the pipe.

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/15/2006 10:01:04 AM

Jaybird180

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Short of getting a 3hr custom map, what would work best for me?

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/15/2006 11:40:19 AM

Wilson1

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If PC doesn't have a map for your setup, just try all the slip-ons. That's what I and several people I know have done. Just change them periodically, or take an hour or two and just do some tests. Takes like 60 seconds to change them out. Then just choose the one you felt was most efficient.

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/15/2006 3:31:35 PM

So Slow

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PM sent..
Thanks

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/16/2006 11:06:49 AM

So Slow

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Thanks SquireSCA for the map..I loaded it this morning and it worked great and with summer already set in the bike should run much better then it has..
Thanks Again

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/18/2006 1:40:56 PM

larry600

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can you send me the map i have a 2004 cbr 600f4i with the yoshi rs3 slip on and a k&n air filter thanks
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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/19/2006 1:25:43 AM

jorge13

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Well, if you do not mind I have the Akrapovic slip-on, all other is stock.
neptune@adinet.com.uy

Thanks in advance

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/28/2006 10:22:36 AM

Blackjack

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I'd really appreciate it if anyone who recieved the custom map from this thread would PM me or email it to me.

I'd really appreciate it bros.

Thanks in advance,

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 6/28/2006 11:06:12 AM

Wilson1

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I tried one of your maps on my bike, and for some reason it felt really doggy in the low/mid range? It's also like 90-100 degrees out, so maybe that was the problem. Best I can find for my TRS exhaust and KN Filter was the Two Bros map. Had been running the RS3 map, and I think the 2bros had more low range. Could just be my imagination tho hahahaha.

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 3/18/2007 6:46:16 PM

krash

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dredging up old posts looking for a map.

anyone still have this map? I would like to give it a try on my '01 with an akrapovic slip on

thanks

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RE: Who else needed a custom map? - 3/19/2007 1:38:24 AM

Hindra

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Ive got an '01 two brothers w/ k&n filter..

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