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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/4/2006 3:57:56 PM   
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I thought this was the "Stunters Corner" Why are there people in here saying not to do wheelies??? If you dont like wheelies than you shouldnt be posting.

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/4/2006 4:06:57 PM   
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+1 on clutching it up...

and the biggest peice of advice....COVER THE BRAKE...its been a life saver more than once for me, and if you want to learn to control your wheelies you have to use it anyway...

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/6/2006 9:56:34 PM   
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i can only clutch my bike if first gear, and i can also trhottle wheelie it in first, but in second i can only get the tire to rise about 6 inches no matter how much i try. I admit i am a fat S.O.B. (about 300 lbs.) i have a 929. now im trying to shift from 1st to 2nd but allways hit neutral any suggestions.(I know what most of them would be is to lose weight+))

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/7/2006 3:52:20 PM   
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try bouncing while clutching in second.

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/7/2006 7:21:21 PM   
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clutching and powering it up are just 2 ways of doing things...and please do not bash other people's opinions because that is what this forum is for. i've seen just as many people loop power wheelies as i have clutching...

now...about clutching wheelies, are you saying it doesn't 'kill' the clutch or are you saying it by no means leads to premature clutch wear?

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/7/2006 9:54:54 PM   
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have fun with those pow pow power wheelies


pretty safe, no?

please make a mental note of the speed he gains while brings the front up.

please also look for the point in which he gets slung back...

yea i'll stick to tearing my clutch up...

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/7/2006 10:27:48 PM   
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quote:

i can only clutch my bike if first gear, and i can also trhottle wheelie it in first, but in second i can only get the tire to rise about 6 inches no matter how much i try. I admit i am a fat S.O.B. (about 300 lbs.) i have a 929. now im trying to shift from 1st to 2nd but allways hit neutral any suggestions.(I know what most of them would be is to lose weight+))


I power up my first gear standup wheelies all the time, I almost never clutch them, 2nd gear I always clutch. It throttles up in first, just as fast as I can clutch it up in second.
I know your 929 will do it, the guy I bought mine from weighed 250lbs, and he throttled that sucker striaght up in first all the time. I weigh about 150 and I have throttled them striaght up with lots of different people on the back, weighing from 100lbs to 250lbs (yeah thats pretty nuts I know)
Try standup wheelies on the back pegs, or slide all the way back in your seat, and try the sitdown wheelies again.
I just dont have that much fun unless I am pushing the bike to its mechanical limits, lol

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/8/2006 11:34:36 AM   
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quote:

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have fun with those pow pow power wheelies


pretty safe, no?

please make a mental note of the speed he gains while brings the front up.

please also look for the point in which he gets slung back...

yea i'll stick to tearing my clutch up...


LOL...great video...seen it before...i understand what you are saying about clutching it and getting the same height if you have the same throttle and RPM everytime when you slip the clutch...so in that sense it is safer than bouncing...

as far as a noob doing clutch or bounce...i dunno though...both seem to loop it just as easily...

i thought you said it doesn't tear up the clutch mang? i'm not challenging you on it, just asking the definition of it.

tearing up the clutch? no it doesn't....not like clutch blowing up and stuff...but as far as premature wear?

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/8/2006 6:10:22 PM   
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ok i will concede to your "premature wear" argument. it MAY cause premature clutch wear, but how much life am i losing??

yes, you can loop both just as easily if you don't know what you're doing. but thats why i tell people to take it slooooow and start in first. first has a lot more engine brake then second or third, so if an "oh shit" situation occurs you can chop throttle (or hit the rear brake; what you should be doing in the first place) and the engine brake will bring you back down. also, once you can rock BP first gear wheelies you'll have these two things called throttle control and rear brake control, those two things will help you not loop.

noobs just need to realize they aren't going to be kevin marino within a week. this shit takes time...and shit loads of practice...

that vid makes me cringe.....

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/8/2006 6:41:20 PM   
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I know for sure I am wearing my clutch out, when poping up 2nd gear wheelies at 50mph the bike used to snap right up, now I can actually feel a little bit of a difference, I'll be due for a new clutch soon, but that dosent bother me, its worth the fun.

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/9/2006 8:23:14 AM   
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I'll get in on the clutch wear issue. Ok if you acutally ride your bike hard you are wearing out the clutch faster anyway. When you shift harder and at a higher rpm than most people you are going to wear the clutch faster. When you clutch up a wheelie you are doing the same thing as shifting, but not changing a gear. If you take off hard and shift into 2nd hard the tire will come up, right? Basically the same thing, but mabye with a little more rpms when clutching a wheelie. Mabye a little more wear then regular hard riding.

Now about the power wheelie stuff, don't do it. If you want to go ahead, but don't come crying here when you loop it because the air was cooler and the bike had more power than the other day. They are unpredictable and will get you into trouble in a hurry, but if thats what your into go for it. I used to power wheelie ans I learned to clutch them and realized how much easier it makes them, with some practice. Just cover the brake, it will save you.

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/9/2006 8:53:13 AM   
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I used to power wheelie ans I learned to clutch them and realized how much easier it makes them, with some practice. Just cover the brake, it will save you.

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same here

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/9/2006 12:03:57 PM   
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ok...i agree that clutching is more consistent and in that sense safer...

now...as far as powering it up...this is what i don't understand...if the person powering it up has no sense of using the rear brake or letting off the throttle when the bike is getting way up there and about to loop...what are they doing attempting wheelies anyway? in this case they shouldn't be doing wheelies at all!

i think i will go out and try the clutch thing now. my power wheelies are sucking bad since my suspension upgrade...



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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/9/2006 12:31:26 PM   
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ok...i agree that clutching is more consistent and in that sense safer...

now...as far as powering it up...this is what i don't understand...if the person powering it up has no sense of using the rear brake or letting off the throttle when the bike is getting way up there and about to loop...what are they doing attempting wheelies anyway? in this case they shouldn't be doing wheelies at all!

i think i will go out and try the clutch thing now. my power wheelies are sucking bad since my suspension upgrade...




Basically if you are inexperienced and want it all it will hurt you if you clutch them or power them up. You can't just go out and expect to be able to do everything overnight, you have to practice this sh!t if you wanna get better. If you clutch them its easier to slow down and get the feel of everything. And you can start small with the rpms and see what works for you, and with power wheelies you have to be going faster with the bike in the power range and blip the throttle and tug on it to get it up. <--Now that right there is an accident waiting to happen. That being said if I had to learn everything over from square one I would way rather have learned to clutch them from the start instead of basically having to reteach myself everything about a wheelie when I learned the clutch. After you get the feel for bp you can clutch it right up to it and ride it out at 40 or 50 then go past bp a little and slow it down if you want to. Now if you want to power up a standup you have to be going about 50 just to get the front up and by the time your done chasing the front tire to bp your already going 70 or so. That right there should be enough reason to learn to clutch them.

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RE: any tips for doin wheelies - 8/9/2006 7:06:17 PM   
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i still think that nobody should learn how to clutch wheelies when they are learning. i learned how to do power wheelies first and so did jesse, you almost have to. or your gonna freak out when you clutch it up to high. power wheelies have limits on what you can do with them. but aleast you learn what it feels like and you can get alittle height out of them. now when you start clutching them up. its a different story but atleast you know what it feels like. i think that people need to do power wheelies to get used to a wheelie and then start clutching. i cannot see the logic behind telling noobies to go out and learn how to clutch right away. i have seen just as many people loop doing clutch wheelies then power wheelies if not more. you would have to be a retard to loop a power wheelie and do we really want them people on bikes??? it takes alot to loop a power wheelie and very little to loop a clutch wheelie. i dont care if you guys agree with me or not.

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