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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 2:46:45 PM

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Welcome to the CBRForum Joseph

Try to have some fun as well while visiting mate

All honda 88 CBR1000''s will make a little noise usually , but yer , if its bad , follow all of Shadow1''s advise mate ...
He knows his stuff

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 7:47:39 PM

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Do you have to spilt the case to remove the alternator?

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 8:53:35 PM

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The book says yes, but one of our members, KASKA, has done it successfully with the motor in the bike.Send him a PM, and look up his posts - he has pictures !

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 10:02:35 PM

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how do you check to see if the cct if its bad?

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 10:21:41 PM

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how do you check to see if the cct if its bad?

Mostly its a determination made taking into account the noise its making and the miles it has on it since being last swapped out ..

You can remove the rocker/ valve cover and physically check the chain for slack if you are keen and then decide , if you have quite a bit of noise , quite a few miles on it and the c/chain actually feels like it has slack in it ..
Its almost a sure bet that you need a chain and tensioner ..

Hs she got good fresh oil in her mate ?
They are operated by oil and spring..... if the oil is a little dead , that may make them rattle a bit too...

Mine for instance is a bit rattly at idle but only on and off ...
Sometimes shes quiet ..other times she has a little band of tinkle clangers playing ...
(don''t ask !! )

I wont go into the type of noise because we did this in another thread that went 4 pages already...

I am swapping mine out very soon

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 10:50:01 PM

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Consider these -

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 10:55:33 PM

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Yer ..a little while ago one of the guys did a really good pic by pic post on replacing the chain tensioner ..and guides ...
I can remember the url ....but this is his profile.. search a million posts or PM him

Ferlev ..
http://www.cbrforum.com/showProfile.asp?memid=14051

I saved everything to disk

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RE: engine clank - 10/9/2008 11:02:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kasnooze50

how can you test to see if there bad? and does the have to come out of the bike to work on it?

Read the manual. They talk about inspection on the CCT & Chain ( could be stretched, but i doubt it). No way to inspect the alt chain without splitting the case (from what I know)

Like its been said, its a very common issue with these bikes. and there is A LOT of information concerning these issues on past posts.

Good luck. THe Manual will save your life. I personally bought a Haynes manual.. seems to make things a little more layman.

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RE: engine clank - 10/13/2008 2:46:28 PM

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how do you adjust the balance shaft?

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RE: engine clank - 10/13/2008 3:30:19 PM

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Suggest you look at the workshop manual as it is easy to see there..... page 10-4 ....

1990 Honda manual (page 10-9) states: "Adjust the backlash while the engine is cold. Loosen the pinch bolt and turn the shaft counterclockwise up to dead end and back off by one graduation. Apply a locking agent to the threads of the pinch bolt and tighten it securely."

Here is link to the manual

http://members.iinet.net.au/~cbr/Honda_CBR1000F_Service_Manual.pdf or http://www.cbrforum.com/m_123412/tm.htm

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RE: engine clank - 10/16/2008 6:52:43 PM

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i checked into a timing chain that has a master link, but nobody know about them. Were did you guys get them?

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RE: engine clank - 10/16/2008 7:17:31 PM

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Mate ..the timing chains do not come with a master link(a link with a clipped joiner)
that''s ehy they looked at you strange possibly..??

DID ..make one of them that is broken ( disconnected at one link) already and all you do is feed it through very very carefully and rejoin it... then pean( squish the pin shut tight ) it back together .. or if you have a good chain breaker they should or might come with a tool to re lock the link... some guys tig weld the join link to be sure it stays locked..

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RE: engine clank - 10/16/2008 8:04:02 PM

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D I D and Takasago both make cam timing chains with master links.
It''s been discussed before, about two months ago - check previous posts, mine and others.

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RE: engine clank - 10/16/2008 8:27:37 PM

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D I D and Takasago both make cam timing chains with master links.
It''''''''''''''''s been discussed before, about two months ago - check previous posts, mine and others.

The confusing term with these chains is " Master " they actually are not master links at all Pete..

The are just broken ..meaning one link is open to rejoin...once joined you cannot tell where the join was ..so the "master" link is no more ...the shops do not call them master links either ..

I see you got a new service tow vehicle Pete...

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RE: engine clank - 10/16/2008 9:22:38 PM

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