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shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:28:08 AM   
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Accidently, I skipped a gear (from 2nd, skipped 3rd, and went right into 4th). Then after that I did it again just to see if there was a diff with the engine, and nothing. Still 3rd gear sometimes is so short, n-e ways, question is; is there anything wrong (mechanically) with skipping a gear up-shifting?
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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:34:10 AM   
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it doesn''t hurt anything.

i''m sure everyone has at some time or another topped off 1st, gone through about half of 2nd and then shifted up to 4th or 5th simply because halfway up 2nd gear at full throttle can sometimes = 80-100 mph.

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:34:24 AM   
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I find that a strange thing to do or want to do ... it seems more effort to have to consciously skip it than just use it to me??

Anyway my thoughts are if you keep doing this you will find a false neutral and rev the engine unecessarily ..

Sometimes when my chain gets a bit slack I find false neutrals between 2 and 3 and get quite a fright when my revs blast right round the dial ... when I retension it, problem solved ...

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:40:48 AM   
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exactly, Im not an expert what so ever (only 6 months experience) but i''ve noticed that, sometimes u take off a light, roll on the throtle and 3rd, 4th gear is just not necessary u might shift them in but only to find out that it helps u in no way.......

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it doesn''''t hurt anything.

i''''m sure everyone has at some time or another topped off 1st, gone through about half of 2nd and then shifted up to 4th or 5th simply because halfway up 2nd gear at full throttle can sometimes = 80-100 mph.


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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:42:21 AM   
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I never skip 2nd on the way up, but other gears all the time. I think if it is done quickly, where the engine doesn''t lose revs, it is OK.  I think I read something to that effect in a magazine recently too, it also said, if you hear a clunk then you are too slow with your hands and feet.

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 6:54:24 AM   
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Whereas I dont see the need to skip gears on my bike, its no problem provided you dont keep finding false neutrals ... all I can say is that I have never felt the need to conscioulsy skip gears going up the box, its so effortless and seamless going up through the box, a complete joy,  that consciously skipping would kinda spoil things for me ... maybe your roads over the pond make more sense of this ...Im lost ..lol

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:01:09 AM   
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I never really skip going up, maybe on a slight occasion ill skip 5th.... but almost all the time when im blip shifting down coming to a stop i skip 5th and go straight to 4th to help start slowing down

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:07:45 AM   
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quote:

maybe your roads over the pond make more sense of this


Considering most of the time in town we are travelling under 50 MPH, easily attainable in first gear, getting to 50 MPH is all the fun there is to be had. So I''ll accelerate hard to somewaht legall or illegal speeds then upshift a few times to cruise. I guess I could ride around in 1st gear at 11,000 rpm everywhere, but that seems a little nutty even for me.

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:14:13 AM   
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Considering most of the time in town we are travelling under 50 MPH, easily attainable in first gear, getting to 50 MPH is all the fun there is to be had. So I''''''''ll accelerate hard to somewaht legall or illegal speeds then upshift a few times to cruise. I guess I could ride around in 1st gear at 11,000 rpm everywhere, but that seems a little nutty even for me.


I see, I ride on mostly nice open and wide country roads where I can bowl along at 60 -70 mph legally and safely ... of course I break these speed limits too and will often zoom upto 90-100mph (where its safe) to do so but I just enjoy the acceleration through all of my gears, riding the power and torque off them if you like and I feel the ratios are just perfect for zipping up to these speeds without missing any of them out :-)

In town I suppose it could make more sense but I tend to ride so much more gently anyway that I just go up from 1st to 6th in the usual manner without any hard acceleration in 1st gear ..

Jules

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:26:13 AM   
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Yeah, many times I''ll take off the line to put some distance between me and the pack...Depending on the speed I''ll hit the first 2 gears and maybe skipping the remainder, but I think usually I hit them all.

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:29:48 AM   
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Yes, I also find that if I have accelerated very hard in first or second and have reached nearly the speed I want to cruise at I just "hit" all the rest quickly as I go through them, its all so effortless anyway and I like the sound of rapidly changing gears too :-)

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:39:24 AM   
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I always skip a gear or two upshifting. When I am coming to a stop I pull the clutch in and as im slowing I will downshift, but I never let the clutch out. Is this not a common practice? I also pull in and hold the clutch if going down a big hill. This cant be bad for my bike, is it? 

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 7:47:25 AM   
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^ Just harder on the brakes is all.

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 8:06:23 AM   
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If coming to a junction and I am arriving fast I will usually end up tap dancing down them quickly just before the wheels stop so in that respect I dont use gears to slow down ..I have always been of the mind both car and bike I would rather have break wear than engine gearbox wear ..all those heavy fast overruns are all extra wear and tear ..typically in the car I will just let my foot of the accelerator and slowed down for a junction in top gear until my speed is real low then I can just pop it out of gear at low speed and gentle break the rest of the way :-)

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RE: shifting, ever skip a gear??? - 10/13/2008 8:18:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Juliet

If coming to a junction and I am arriving fast I will usually end up tap dancing down them quickly just before the wheels stop so in that respect I dont use gears to slow down ..I have always been of the mind both car and bike I would rather have break wear than engine gearbox wear ..all those heavy fast overruns are all extra wear and tear ..

Jules



That a good point "Jules", I''ve done both. Sometimes I''ll down-shift slowly as I come up to a light. But u can''t be to quick, U can immediatly notice ur gearbox taking the weight. On the other hand sometimes u R caught by surprise and end up having to stop without downshifting. Then down-shift  once u''ve stopped but I''ve also noticed that the gears don''t go in as easily when ur bike is not moving....

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