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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 5:20:04 AM
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bumblebeegsxr
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ORIGINAL: knife_edge I appreciate your statements, your work ethics and all that you've offer to other riders. I am also a fellow Police Officer in Providence Rhode. I ride a 05 Silver/Black CBR 600 rr with pride. We have a lot of riders in the Department both with cruiser and street bikes. But, unfortunately I ussaully have to ride out into the Mass. area. I find it much safer to ride then RI. In the matter of making a stop with a motorcycle. I've also fine it nesseccery to make some of those obserbations of bikes. Especially, young kids (17-27) on street bikes. There are far to many riders who don't even bother to get their motorcycle license and think that they deserve some kind brake. I fine that the ones who are braking the law: Stop signs, signal lights, speeding and or even doing stunts on a two way street with no regard of safety for others. In my opinion do not deserve any kind of brake. But, a big swif kick in the wallet or purse. I work in the city and at times it is to dangerious to ride safely. It is like dodging bullets, they just happen to be bigger vehicles. I was invited on a ride with other riders from the area and didn't know anyone else, exept for the friend who had invited me. It turned out to be about 35 bikes by the time we left and before you know I realized that some rider were on stunt bikes. I love to see all the stunts being done. But,I in partigular don't want to learn how to do these stunts. These type of stunts should be left to a safer location and not with a large group of riders and surely not on the highway. As some of you know out there, these guys who are doing the stunts are usually in the front the group. Some of the riders were going pretty fast who were riding behind just as the ones in the front. Suddenly without warning, up goes a couple of the bikes for a stand up wheelies and high chair wheelies. We were able to make it to the location safely. The one thing that I kepted on my mind asking was "are these guys crazy?" "Sure enough," We arrived at a Suzuki Bike store. They had a Dyno Station and the longest flat competition. Suddenly, mind you this is during rush hours on route 30 in Mass on a Saturday afternoon. One of the stunts guys desides to do some stunts on the that strip with two lanes each way. He begins on a "high chair wheelie," he couldn't quit get it right and his began to bounce uncontrollably on his bike from the asphault to the grass area. Which, made things a lot wurst for him. He then went towards a sign with 6 to 8 circumference pole that was holding the sign on the top. He most of have been going about 40 mlies an hour. When his bike plunged into that pole and the left side of the bike. When the dust had settle down. We ran over to help and the kid was badly hurt. We couldn't touch or move him. The Hylobac had to fly him out to Boston. How, did all made me fill. I love to ride in groups. But do us all a favor, let the rest of us know. If, you're going to be doing this type of riding in a unsafe enviroment. I want to be able to make my own decision on the matter, if I want to ride with you or not. Dont mean to sound like an ass and dont take this the wrong way but.....IF you really are a police officer, I'm sure your fellow co-workers would be helped out by a lil grammar power up. AND... YES I totally agree with you that if they are going to ride on public highways like asses than they should notify whoever is going to ride in the group. Its only fair! If not, then u kind of in a way have to be wiping their asses for them when they wipe out....
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 9:24:16 AM
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Fretless33
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ORIGINAL: bumblebeegsxr Dont mean to sound like an ass and dont take this the wrong way but.....IF you really are a police officer, I'm sure your fellow co-workers would be helped out by a lil grammar power up. LOL! I was going to say the same thing...I hope your reports don't look like this reply you just did...do they let 8 year olds be police?
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 9:36:24 AM
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philly
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Here in England we find that the police take some real winding up first before they'll pull you. You have to be riding like a complete idiot before they do. In America aren't you allowed to filter or are there certain restrictions on it? We can here but the police may stop you if you are doing it a lot faster than the flow of traffic.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 10:15:11 AM
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rrasco
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filter = weave traffic? ride the white line?
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 5:27:10 PM
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bumblebeegsxr
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Lane splitting=filter???? If so, then at least in cali yes you can lane split at stop lights but just cant b stupid about it
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 6:57:58 PM
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chainstretcher
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Filter? Speak English dammit
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/28/2006 11:29:10 PM
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CBR76
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My definition of filter is to cut through traffic, at or above the posted speed limit and/or flow of traffic, without regard for signalling turns or giving right of way to other vehicles. Kind of like "Frogger" but going in the same direction. Also, check out the "Ghostrider" videos.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 5:47:51 AM
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shraz
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umm y do u take into account the fairing and pegs? this can be from a previous owner damage
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 8:57:35 AM
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virtualbong
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Good read. I would say that this goes hand in hand with cagers. Riced out car and bad attitude will definitely get you a citation instead of a warning in my mind.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 3:46:31 PM
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CBR76
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ORIGINAL: shraz umm y do u take into account the fairing and pegs? this can be from a previous owner damage Well, its one thing added to the totality of everything I observe. If I see damage I'll ask how they got it, if they were the first owner etc. I look at the fairing and pegs along with the general way they are riding the bike to see if they can ride or have no experience. Them being a new rider or experienced doesnt mean a break or citation by itself but gives me some added insight into what kind of rider they are and their mindset (generally responsible or a squid). Then I look at their driving record. All this adds into my decision whether to give a warning, one citation for speed or unsafe lane change, or adding a negligent/reckless driving charge. If they ran and got caught I might add attempting to elude. One time I was puttering along the Interstate around 3am when a bike blew past me so fast that my car shook. I would guess that he was doing about 160mph or more..easy. I was able to keep his taillights in view for a little while and I could tell that the guy was good and real smooth. I had my lights on and he made no attempt to stop. I had a gut instinct that he was going to take the next exit so I shut off my lights and took the exit. Lo and behold he was stopped at the first intersection off the exit ramp, stretching his arms out. Pulled in front, jumped out, and ordered him off the bike. He gunned the engine, and tried to squeeze past my car and the guardrail. Just as my hands went onto his riding jacket he cleared the space and hit the throttle. Almost lost it as the back tire spun on loose gravel. I let him go as the plate was bent and there was no way he was going to be cocky enough to stop again. Had my hands found purchase on his jacket and I got him off all of the above-mentioned considerations would have gone out the window. It would have been weekend vacation at the jail for him and a full book of citations. The considerations I mention are for people that make a mistake, own up to it or at the minimum courteous, and don't hurt anyone else in the process.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 3:54:18 PM
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CBR76
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ORIGINAL: virtualbong Good read. I would say that this goes hand in hand with cagers. Riced out car and bad attitude will definitely get you a citation instead of a warning in my mind. Unless they've got pipes I can hear a mile away or something blatantly illegal installed, I don't write drivers of tricked-out imports just for the sake of doing so. I don't think its fair to see a car with a tach on the dash, NOS stickers, and spoilers and single them out. I wouldnt like to be stopped because someone sees a 600rr and assumes, "Why would someone ride a bike like that and not be racing around. Let's screw with him" However, if I stop a car (whether a plain-Jane Corolla or Toyota Supra) and the driver gives me a attitude I might decide to take a greater interest in his vehicle's equipment). Since I make a habit of pointing this out to a given hot-head before doing so, usually it encourages them to be polite and let me do my job.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 6:01:31 PM
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omar_rojas2000
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I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, ON YOUR STATE OR OTHER STATES, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH RIDING THE BIKE WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS ALL THE TIME? HOW ABOUT AT NIGHT?, I KNOW FOR CAR IS NOT OK BUT IS IT THE SAME FOR BIKES? tKS.
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RE: Bikes from a Police Officers Viewpoint... - 3/29/2006 10:51:24 PM
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CBR76
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ORIGINAL: omar_rojas2000 I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, ON YOUR STATE OR OTHER STATES, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH RIDING THE BIKE WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS ALL THE TIME? HOW ABOUT AT NIGHT?, I KNOW FOR CAR IS NOT OK BUT IS IT THE SAME FOR BIKES? tKS. Good question but I'm afraid I don't know the answer. I can say that I've never pulled a bike over for that reason nor would I cite someone for that. I know that wouldn't do you much good if you got pulled over for it so I will look it up and let you know.
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