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One liter Wheelie! - 5/11/2005 5:04:46 PM

RRip

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OK. Just recently bought an RR 1000. I upgraded from a Katana 600. Have not ridden in 10 years.

Everyone told me not to get a liter. "You'll kill yourself!"

I have had it for 3 months now, and I am so glad I bought it.

Now that I am used to it, I am trying to get the front end off the ground.

With the Katana 600 (piece of crap) I used to wind the engine and pop the clutch and could not even get the tire up 1 inch.

Now with the liter, I need to find the right gear and rpm to lift without overdoing it and flipping.

I have not found the magic number and am trying to do this gracefully.

Out of the 75 vidoes I have seen I have found 2 techniques.

1. Get the RPMs to mid range. Let off on gas and immediately half throttle it.
2. Get the RPMs to half range and then throttle it.

I am missing something though because the power is not there.

What is the best technique, gear and RPM to pull the front end at a reasonablly slow speed and hold it?

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/11/2005 5:56:46 PM

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Stop covering the tank -- usually that's what keeps you from getting the front wheel up. You'll feel it getting light then unconscienciously move your weight forward. If you take a 1000RR and get it rolling at 10mph and then wide open throttle the front will come up no matter where you move your weight -- just cover the rear brake in case it goes to far.

And for what it's worth -- I hate wheelies. My only wheelies on street bikes are the accidental ones when I just over throttle out of a turn or when launching really hard. I love wheelies on a dirt bike though. Something about landing goofy on asphalt that gives me the willies.

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/12/2005 1:59:20 PM

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Wheelies are very simple on the 1000RR. Slow ones are much harder to do because U have to worry about the balance from side to side, but if you pick up alittle speed the cintrefical force of the wheels spinning should keep you from going from side to side. I have learned that in 2nd gear at about 45mph you can roll the throttle and clutch it at the same time and the bike will come up easily. Or you can speed up to about 60mph or so then quickly open the throttle and let off then when the front starts to rebound open the throttle again. The second suggestion is what I recomend because it is more controlled and better on the clutch. Remember any wheelie is a dangerious wheelie, PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/12/2005 2:43:56 PM

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yeah chain, i feel you about those wheelies. mine are accidental too. be careful RRIP

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/12/2005 4:21:52 PM

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It's funny how stuff comes back to haunt you -- I was coming home this morning down my favorite two lane twisty road and after the last curve there's a beauty dog leg into a 1/4mi straight. Nailed it in second around the sweeper and just as I entered the straight the front wheel became just an extra part. Kept on the gas and rode it out. So while it wasn't on purpose it was cool. I still stand strong that I don't really like wheelies on the pavement -- it's just one of those things that happens.

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/20/2005 10:34:30 AM

Dragon

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ORIGINAL: RRip

OK. Just recently bought an RR 1000. I upgraded from a Katana 600. Have not ridden in 10 years.

Everyone told me not to get a liter. "You'll kill yourself!"

I have had it for 3 months now, and I am so glad I bought it.

Now that I am used to it, I am trying to get the front end off the ground.

With the Katana 600 (piece of crap) I used to wind the engine and pop the clutch and could not even get the tire up 1 inch.

Now with the liter, I need to find the right gear and rpm to lift without overdoing it and flipping.

I have not found the magic number and am trying to do this gracefully.

Out of the 75 vidoes I have seen I have found 2 techniques.

1. Get the RPMs to mid range. Let off on gas and immediately half throttle it.
2. Get the RPMs to half range and then throttle it.

I am missing something though because the power is not there.

What is the best technique, gear and RPM to pull the front end at a reasonablly slow speed and hold it?

Hello, you should take the bike in 1st to about 23-30 mph and then you can gun the throttle half or so..(you almost need to position your grip-wrist up more so you have leverage to crank back the throttle) this should get you up no problem...the speed and body position will vary. This is something you will have to play with. The popping the clutch is not the way to do it...a rolling wheelie is best...I am not a pro but have rode a wheelie over a 100 yards....taken it up in 1st gear about 24 mph is best....keep the foot close to the rear brake and it will bring you down fast....if you need it....DO not pull up on the handle bars...doesn't work...its not a bike...just relax and let the bike do the work...
I have pulled one in 1st shifted to 2nd ...and have even pulled one up in 2nd gear....
OH...I did do the wheelie school also....lol....it was fun just like doing a track day.....It taught me more control...
Just my lil input...
Dragon

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/26/2005 1:26:30 AM

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I have done wheelies for years and suggest on the 1000RR not even tring one until you are going at least 50 kmh or faster to learn, or you may flip it. (it does 160kmh in first so you should be o.k.;) I suggest rolling off then on the throttle, or a slight slip of the clutch to get it up faster, cover the rear brake just in case (don't touch the front one!)get it at about a 45 angle and accelerate to balance (not full throttle) as you start to run out of rpm, roll off slightly and snick it up into 2nd and ride her out ;) practice practice practice.... (as for pulling up on the bars, actually you push down to load the suspension then throttle as it pushes back up to get up faster without clutch) eventually you'll learn the balance point and can ride it up forever (well allmost) Hope that helps, and do it away from traffic and wear you leathers, ect... good luck

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 5/26/2005 11:04:31 AM

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Problem I found with wheeli'n the rr is the balance point is far different from most others it a bit of 'all or nithin' - ive been doin it for years on almost every sports bike from early blades to r1s. I find with this bike clutchin it in 2nd at 50mph is easiest, but it takes time to get up a foot then your instantly at 2ft, so to start just practice small take of wheelies - 1st gear is way too dangerous on this bike, so stik to 2nd and clutchin.

Once you get it its awesome! ill never forget the first day i learned to wheelie!

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 6/11/2005 11:44:43 AM

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Actually I find it much easier to balance, and more controllable to stand on the pegs for a wheelie... and it looks cooler I think
;)

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 6/11/2005 6:03:19 PM

speedygonzalez954RR

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wheelie is really cool, especially in front of babes walking by. but remember, one of you guys said "any wheelie is a dangerous wheelie"
is absolutely right, just think about this, even the most experienced stunt guy, every now and then will do something wrong to cause him to wipe out. and that's all you need, just one mistake and it could cost you sums of money, to put it back together, plus the thought that you've managed to thrash your "baby" for what? a few seconds of glory? whenever I get the urge, I park my repsol and grab my pocketbike (mini version of my repsol) it's safer , cheaper to thrash!

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 8/30/2005 3:42:48 PM

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i have a friend with an 01 katana 600. after riding it a little, i didnt think it would be possible to wheelie. one day we were in a huge empty parking lot and i just wanted to show the guys that i couldnt get his bike up, hes the one we make fun of out of all of us who ride. anyway, i got it up and it scared me because i wasnt expecting it. but there you go, no clutch slipping needed. just a little bounce on the front end followed by a quick twist

and be careful on the 1000. i dont try it much and have done it accidentally a few times, but it wheelies in first real easy. the most i have had the tire up in second gear is about 2 inches. but if you crank it too hard, it will throw you in a heartbeat. but be real careful, i dont like to do them a lot on purpose because i have a friend that had been doing them forever and then one day, he wrecked at about 55 on the rear wheel. the sweet erion ,rest in peace, didnt make it. he got tore up real nice too and was pulling chunks of glass out of his side for 2 weeks.

i have a quick story too. it turns out that buddy of mine with the erion and only one other guy bought erions from this one dealership in GA. they both wrecked, but only my friend is around to tell the story now. BE SAFE

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RE: One liter Wheelie! - 8/30/2005 4:01:49 PM

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On a bumpy-curvy road the 1kRR will raise up in 3rd. This isn't something I expected. All I can say is the HESD works. Beeeee-u-t-ful! I don't intentionally do wheelies either or burnouts. And while I'm on the subject of burnouts -- WTF is with peeps? They all want to see smoke but nobody really chips in for that new $230+ rear tire, eh? Screw that! You want smoke -- ya gotta contribute to the tire fund

After installing the new Galfer SS brake lines I did a couple of small stoppies (12 -18 inches) to test 'em out. Got that outta my system so now I can just ride and have fun.

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