Technique Question: Hard Braking
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Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 10:08:53 AM
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Jet Jockey Z06 Vette
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Getting the feel back quickly, but want to learn more.
Question: Being able to do some really good emergency stops is probably one of the best road survival skills we can have - in my opinion. I know the RR stops REALLY well, but I want to master this on my bike.
So -- how often do you guys practise some really good hard stops? And if you do them, tell me what you aim for? What speeds do you work with?
I did well in the MSF course with emergency stops both straight & in curves. But these all were done from about 15 - 20 mph. I'm wanting to work up to higher speeds to more replicate the road environment we're all on. I'm trying to get my understandings down first, hence the question.
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 10:13:02 AM
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sodamninsane
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there's a pretty big parking lot down the street from my house (kmart headquarters in troy) that has been repaved... I go down there to practice cornering, and hard braking. Basically you just have to work up to it... try stopping with only the front brake, maybe a little rear, but in a really hard stop all the rear does is make the rear tire skid. You can pretty much endo the bike before the front will slide (if it's warm). I usually run it up to about 25-30 and nail the brakes for my first couple of runs... then some higher speed stuff from about 45-50mph. The 45-50 is a good emergency stop because it doesn't just jerk the bike to a stop, you actually roll a little bit.
edit: as far as goals... let the front be the deciding factor... stop as hard as you can without sliding it (but work up to this slowly, because sliding the front produces a nasty low side). The other thing to shoot for is your riding form. grab the tank with you legs to take the load off your arms so you can still control the bike. Use your back and abs to hold you up so you can make a maneuver if you have to, or control the throttle and clutch. I try to stop as fast as I can, with as much control of the bike as possible, with as little weight on my arms as possible.
< Message edited by sodamninsane -- 5/5/2006 10:15:36 AM >
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 12:07:04 PM
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woodyracing
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practice? i do trackdays (lots of em) so braking hard is second nature to me
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 1:43:43 PM
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Fretless33
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I use to practice every Sunday, but I don't anymore...
I use to vary the speeds and practiced doing small stoppies, because sometimes the rear does come up...
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 3:32:15 PM
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woodyracing
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haha I don't think any of us "planned" to become track junkies
I know I sure as hell never thought I'd be doing this, lol
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 3:46:22 PM
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woodyracing
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i know what you mean, Barber is my home away from home, I think I've been there 3 out of the last 4 weekends, and I've got 2 more weekends in a row this month
I'm broke but its fun as hell!
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RE: Technique Question: Hard Braking - 5/5/2006 3:48:01 PM
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woodyracing
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if it makes you feel better a friend of mine used to take his car to the track almost every weekend until he started doing trackdays on his bike. Last I checked his car hadn't left his garage in 2 months
wait that might not make you fell better...
oh well
hehe
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Alot of track time each year for me with almost more laps than I can run. Gotta luv them track days!! 
