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Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/13/2005 6:06:33 AM

ninjaboy

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Nice forum, dudes.

Just bought my first ever 954 2003 black on red - this bike is the absolute bomb!

Everywhere I park it, people drool over it, and usually the girls will ask for a ride on it!

Kills over anything else I've ridden. The 1000RR just scrapes the pegs too easily on track and the 954 just feels much more compliant tilted over for the ol' elbow sliders! Feels so planted - its like a litre bike (not quite powerful) in a 600 body!!!!!

Just have a few problems/dilemmas I've noticed -

1. The gear box is really notchy (but everyone says this is normal???)
2. Sometimes the 4th gear transition seems to drop the gear and just makes this clunking noise (sounds like a marble is in there and bouncing off the casing inside) - corrects itself once I kick the gear up or down hard.
3. Cant get 2nd gear power monos...perhaps in need of an exhaust upgrade/PC3???

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/13/2005 6:08:22 AM

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Oh, maybe because I never learnt to do clutch monos...tried a few times but just felt a bit awkward... a lil help?

With 2nd gear, monoed once by accelerating then lifting the handles up at the same time...No?

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/14/2005 7:37:12 PM

Thor

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hey. that bike should have plenty of horses & torque to do eddie lawson power lifts at least through 4 gears. unless of course you are a fat bastard or your clutch is worn out.

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/16/2005 4:57:22 PM

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Yes, the shifting is a bit 'notchy'...try going w/ full synthetic oil...it helped mine.

I'm no wheelie pro, but you should definately be able to pull the front up in 2nd gear w/ just the throttle....try getting up yo about 45-50mph in 2nd and hit the gas....that should do it.

Be safe!

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/16/2005 10:50:10 PM

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Eddie Lawson power lifts? I didnt realise thats what they're called - should I be gassing, then lifting up, or lift up just before full throttling in 2nd gear?

I have tried numerous attempts to power mono just by using the throttle in 2nd gear once i get to about 6-7000 rpm, but not really lifting the front - I am a athletic but not bulky 5'6" 61kg male... which is considerably light.

So what could I possibly be doing wrong? too much weight at the front? Lean more backwards?

I'm not very familiar with using the clutch for monos, so not particularly keen on starting to wear out my clutch plates for tricks...

Also with the lift, should I weigh the front bars down, then lift up? Then immediately gas?

Curious and experimenting with the foot always on the rear brakes.

Ninjaboy.

PS - how do I attach a pic of my new bike on to the signature?

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/17/2005 6:41:59 AM

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I have a 2003 CBR 954. My first wheelie on the bike was in 1st gear. At 25 mph I got of the throttle and then snapped it back open about half way. She lifted the front end with no problem. I repeated it in second gear with the rpm's about 5000 and had no problem. I don't like power wheelies anymore because the front end came up pretty quick. I prefer clutch wheelies. I can control the rate the wheel comes up better.

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/17/2005 7:01:59 PM

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Ya, thats the prob -

embarrased to say but never learnt to do clutch wheelies...just dont know how...

And yes, get plenty of mono action off the gas in first but seems to struggle in second gear...WTF? Everyone seems to say its not a prob with 2nd gear...is it just my bike?

So what exactly is an Eddie Lawson wheelie?

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/23/2005 1:16:42 PM

reevesna

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u should be able to launch the front tire up in 3rd gear let alone 2nd without the clutch...i don't like using the clutch unless i'm in first trying to keep the speeds down just get the bike up to about 8 or 9000rpm where its really making good power...hit it...back off...and whack it wide open...should come up...i've routinely done stand up wheelies threw 3rd gear at over 125mph whatever that is in kilometers i have no idea...i'm assuming mono's in canada are the same as wheelies in america HA HA HA

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/23/2005 10:08:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: reevesna

u should be able to launch the front tire up in 3rd gear let alone 2nd without the clutch...i don't like using the clutch unless i'm in first trying to keep the speeds down just get the bike up to about 8 or 9000rpm where its really making good power...hit it...back off...and whack it wide open...should come up...i've routinely done stand up wheelies threw 3rd gear at over 125mph whatever that is in kilometers i have no idea...i'm assuming mono's in canada are the same as wheelies in america HA HA HA

Bloody hell, maybe its my bike - i weigh a measly 58-60kg pending on clothes/leathers and still struggle to get the front end up in second gear. Am i doing it right?
Rise to about 7-9000rpm, then bounce off the front suspension and full gas, right?
Some people have told me that its possible without front suspension bounce... WTF?!

getting pissed off that it could be the bike....

grrr..... I can only ever get it up in 1st gear and even with the stand-up-&-pull-the-bike-up-and-gas approach, I have only managed to get the bike up ONCE.

Maybe I need to Dyno it or something....

Frustrated,

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/26/2005 1:52:03 PM

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easy there young Jedi

As reevesna said...in 2nd gear, get the rpm's up to about 8-9k, back off the gas for a sec, then hit it on!....these babies have plenty of power for 'gas only' wheelies....you can always go 2-up on your rear sprocket to get more low end torque.

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/27/2005 5:34:43 AM

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OMFG, I did 2 stand up wheelies last night - ran it in second gear at about 7000rpm, shut throttle off then instantly on the front fork rebound, cracked it right open whilst lifting the whole bike up by standing on the pegs and pulling up on the bars - the front went up much slower than a regular 1st gear mono, and standing up on the bike just felt so far king unreal!!!!

LOVE IT!!!!!!

Thanks guys, for all your help. Stand up monos are starting to feel easier.

Also, if you do monos regularly, as the wheel comes down, because the forks get worked so much, does that mean ultimately you stuff your forks up faster? Should I change the oil/springs/valves much more frequently than normal?
What is normal for those changes?

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/27/2005 9:41:37 AM

reevesna

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i noticed that my front faring and front fender were rubbing from slamming the front end down hard on wheelies so i tightend the preload up on my front forks a few turns but i don't think u'll ever have to worry about changing the oil...unless u do like 20,000miles a yr or something and keep the bike for yrs n yrs...also if u hit the gas again right before the tire hits it helps to not land so hard

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 5/28/2005 9:16:11 AM

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The suggested technique of getting on the throttle then letting off allowing the front end to compress then getting on it again works! I did it last week on my 05 600RR! I can’t tell you what RPM I was at because at this point in my skill level the world is moving by to fast to even take a quick peak at the tach. I just hope it wasn’t to high because I am still in my break in period.

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 6/8/2005 5:42:04 PM

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Yes it takes about 8k in 2nd = around 93 mph BE SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS! 1st 6k will get you up and moving very fast.My bike has a few mod but this worked even before the mod.

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RE: Transmission glitch + wheelie Ques. - 6/12/2005 11:58:58 PM

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hey dude i hear ya i have the same bike & 4th sux so bad it wont go in shifting up or down i hav a manual i down loaded that talks about trouble shooting those thing im afraid to do it ive never worked on a bike b4 & this is the new thing ive ever owned

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