Guess that horsepower...
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Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 1:50:07 AM
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FOXX
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Ok, I have an 01 Erion Racing 929 with damn near 30K miles on the clock. It just went in for it's FIRST valve adjustment, a PCIII (and custom dyno mapping), K&N Filter, airbox mod, new iridium plugs, braided lines, and a new 520 kit (-1 in front/stock in back).
I don't have it back from the shop yet so I don't know the hp#'s but what do you think I should expect after the power mods? Minus the obvious 520 kit and braided lines.
Before mods: All stock, w/the exception of a slip on Akro. The factory ratings on the 929s are 124~128 hp rear wheel. Do you think 135 is shooting too high?
Lets see who's the closest.
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 9:08:33 AM
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Y2K929RR
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 10:03:31 PM
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FOXX
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Man that would be killer if it pulled in 135 horse!! I'll try to post the dyno chart when I get it back this weekend! On another forum, a guy said I should see about 125 hp! WTF?! The bike came with 124~128 from the factory! Maybe he didn't see that it's getting custom mapped on the dyno.. Also someone said the OEM air filter will add more power than the K&N's what the hell is up with that?! He says they breathe better allowing more airflow equating to more hp. If this is the case don't you think K&N would be out of buisness?
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 10:18:22 PM
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k&n filters on bikes flow about the same as stock. there is no performance increase in switching to a k&n. the exhaust might add a hp or 2, but not too much up on top (peak). its still the stock header with htev in place. the pc3 might give you another 1-2 hp, but that's not what the pc3 is for. it will smooth the power delivery but not add peak hp. you need to look at the power curve, not just the highest number created. that's where your mods will really make a difference. and you have to figure some wear on the engine. so 130 rwhp would be my guess, but the difference you feel will make it seem higher than that.
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 10:26:49 PM
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clean929
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well i had my 929 dyno'd it had a hindle bolt on , k/n filter ,iriduim plugs, w/ genaric map fro mthe web site and 80mm factory pro v stacks. it put out 135.7 to the rear wheel.
i am saving up to get some Cams put in with the proper dyno tunning . so i'll keep you posted on what the # are looking like.
but i'll guess about 130 -140 hp.
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/9/2006 10:56:19 PM
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FOXX
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Yeah, I looked into getting velocity stacks but not sure on the benefits of that. Is there a sight with info about the stacks?
Thought about cams too but had a hard time justifiying $750 for cams off of the erion racing site. Crane cams is what they sell. Not sure on the power on those either. I'm just guessing about 130 give or take 1 or 2 hp. The throttle response should be much better from what I hear. Will the airbox mod make that big of a diff?? It's already been done and I'm achin to find out! 
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/10/2006 8:04:55 PM
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clean929
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i went with web cams . there droppin cam all i needed was adjustible cam gears. i've seen the ones on erion web and those need to have you valve components upgraded. check out the cbrzone.com they are a sponsor here. you can go to factorypro.com for more info on the v stacks.
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/11/2006 4:08:30 AM
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FOXX
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Thanks for the info! I'll post #s when I get them!
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 10:22:00 PM
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i'd say with the mapping, 140-145hp. i've got an 01 erion as well, with an arrows system and i've got dyno sheets showing 137.5rwhp. thats with only the exhaust, so with mapping, you would hope for more than that
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 10:52:04 PM
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i'd say with the mapping, 140-145hp. i've got an 01 erion as well, with an arrows system and i've got dyno sheets showing 137.5rwhp. thats with only the exhaust, so with mapping, you would hope for more than that
The single best HP producing item you can install is a FULL exhauxt system (12 to 16 HP possible), which would account for your fairly high numbers. But as he already said that he has a SLIP ON (4 to 6 HP gain) and is getting a PCIII with a custom map. With that, getting anywhere near your numbers is virtually impossible, and 140+ is never going to happen. If you want to get a 929 past the 145+ HP mark, you are going to have to get inside the engine (cams, headwork, etc.).
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 11:08:52 PM
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so if i were to install a power commander and had it professionally tuned i couldnt be in the area of 145? starting at 137. i'm sure with playing around for long enough and with the right work it could be very close. what else would i need?
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 11:15:53 PM
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so if i were to install a power commander and had it professionally tuned i couldnt be in the area of 145? starting at 137. i'm sure with playing around for long enough and with the right work it could be very close. what else would i need?
A Power Commander can get you a few more HP with a full system, but not 8 or more no. Generally a PCIII is required when you do a full system because it runs too lean with a full system and no change in the fuel mapping. With a PCIII and your full system, you would be close. To get to 145 or more you may need to do some kind of intake work to get more air in.
Remember, individual bikes vary. The actual factory rating at the wheels is 120 to 128. Thats a big difference. Thats due to many little variances in the parts, castings, etc.
Is your 137.5 HP SAE Corrected, or straight HP numbers?
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 11:26:25 PM
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to my knowledge straight numbers. i guess my perceptions may be slightly off, not having experience with slip ons.
i'm not greatly interested in max. hp, i prefer to ride my blade through national parks and curvy, slow corners that require more torque than hp, how much of an effect would a power commander/pcIII have on the torque curve?
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RE: Guess that horsepower... - 5/15/2006 11:36:16 PM
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Straight HP numbers are higher than SAE Corrected numbers. If the dyno sheet doesnt say SAE, then they are the raw (and not completely accurate) numbers. If you have 137.5 straight, then your SAE numbers would be a little less, probably around 132 to 134. But that depends on many things. The air temperature, atmospheric pressure, vapor pressure, etc. on the day it was dynoed. The dyno itself has the ability to generate the corrected numbers, but if it is just set to give the raw data, thats what you get.
The HP ratings we see from the factory, or any other official test, are almost always SAE Corrected. Raw numbers vary way too much, so you cannot compare apples to apples. The SAE correction puts them all on a level playing field.
Hopefully I explained that all somewhat clearly. LOL. It can get wayyy too technical.
Either way, your bike seems to rock with a full system and no PCIII yet.
A slip on and a full system are like night and day. about 10HP more with the full system.
TQ and HP numbers are both improved with a PCIII. Keep in mind, that will few exceptions, a full system usually (not always) will sacrifice some low end TQ and HP for high end power since the higher RPM band is what racers utilize. So while your max HP and TQ are up, the bottom end could actually be less. It can be a trade off.
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